8:00-9:30pm ET. Heidi Hillman is autistic and a stutterer, and she brings her experience as a disabled person to how she approaches her work as an ABA therapist. What if we apply an anti-ableist lens to this often-paid for therapy, and find ways to use it to support disabled people rather than use it to enforce ableist norms? Heidi is both visionary in her approach and in the details of practical suggestions to help create access in our families. We love her and are thrilled to have her back for a second year for another conversation - join us!